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 Is there any mileage in the idea that teachers are less accomplished artists? The expression, those who can't, teach seems to suggest so.

 

 

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An existing expression does not need to be true... I would be cautious with these kind of catchy statements.

 

I am not an artist myself but I have found incredible professionals that also had teaching vocation. I suposse it depends on the personal experiences of each of us.

 

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This post doesn't really belong in the artist listing. I think it's more appropriate for 'let's talk about art' or 'the artist's life.'

But in the interest of discussion, I will say that the saying is kind of true, and kind of false. I think people who give up entirely on a field of study to teach in it instead are probably people who couldn't compete, but there are a lot of professionals who teach on the side to support their work. In the end, you can only judge by an individual's circumstances.

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it is very difficult to get a great teacher.... because only a few people love to teach and have enough intellect ... they deserve respect .... but teachers who are fooling kids and society ... are doing a very wrong job ... it affects the tender brains of innocent kids getting wrong knowledge from stupid teachers

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Interesting comments.  I ran a dance studio for 17 years and prior to that worked as a performer and choreographer in fringe.  I now run a children's ballet school.

Many performers supplement their performance work with teaching work. For many teaching is merely a  way to supplement income.  However there are amazing teachers who have skills performers simply don't and could never possess. It takes absolute dedication to be good at one or the other. It is unusual to be a sublime artist and a superlative teacher at the same time. Great teachers are sometimes the  reason why some students become wonderfully successful artists in their own right.

Teachers and  artists enjoy an inextricable  relationship. Teachers are indispensable and provide the bedrock necessary to nurture the professional artists of today and tomorrow. Passionate teachers are inspired by the curiosity students display while learning and students are motivated by the encouragement and support offered by teachers.

 

Both have an integral role in the arts, and  interdependently serve to inspire the other.:)

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Ray    8

Yeah, I'm going to disagree with this statement.  I'm sure it's sometimes true, but probably more often than not, it's false.  This sounds like something a disgruntled student might say to disparage a teacher.  Imagine a teacher saying "If you can't pass my class, you'll never be successful".  Both statements would be equally false.  Think about all the dropouts who went on to great things.  Salvador Dali, Pablo Picasso, Madonna, Coco Chanel...  Then consider all the famous artists who were also teachers.  Georgia O’Keeffe, Marc Chagall, Ai Weiwei, J K Rowling, Steven King, Joe Satriani...  The list goes on and on...  Even outside of the arts, could Amelia Earhart not fly?  

I suppose I have some skin in the game, as I'm also a teacher.  I really enjoy teaching just as much as I enjoy doing.  I have students who have become incredibly successful who come back every now and then and thank me.  I have a wife and daughter who sure benefit from the stability of my job as well.  I don't produce as much art as I would if that was all I did.  So that's a drawback.  Also, after ten years of teaching, I'm not as good at my art as I would be if that's all that I did for the past ten years.  But I'm OK with that too.  I think it's all good.  I can't speak for anyone but myself, but there's plenty of room in my range of appreciation for a bit of imperfection in art.  I can also appreciate a teacher doing it, a housewife, a banker, a politician, a soldier, a vagrant, or a criminal.  I can dig it.

There's just too much hate in the world :)

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I can not say about art in general, but in painting there is not much to be trained. You can teach only the technical side of the question. But one can only learn to see how to express their emotions and feelings on canvas by himself. There is either a talent from nature or not

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On 25/05/2018 at 4:11 PM, Gates said:

I can not say about art in general, but in painting there is not much to be trained. You can teach only the technical side of the question. But one can only learn to see how to express their emotions and feelings on canvas by himself. There is either a talent from nature or not

Oh that's interesting Gates. You believe artistic expression is instinctive. Do you think that a non trained artist is commensurate with a graduate of a prestigious art school?

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23 hours ago, BDS said:

Oh that's interesting Gates. You believe artistic expression is instinctive. Do you think that a non trained artist is commensurate with a graduate of a prestigious art school?

this is difficult for me to judge. But I think that an untrained artist has a more diverse and unique style, although technique is possible and suffers

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12 hours ago, Gates said:

this is difficult for me to judge. But I think that an untrained artist has a more diverse and unique style, although technique is possible and suffers

Agreed🙂

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